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The result was keep. Excellent work done by User:Michig and User:Walter Görlitz to find additional sources, established notability. Clear keep (non-admin closure) scope_creepTalk 11:22, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Previously deleted in 2012. No followers in Spotify, Soundcloud. No coverage. I can't see a case for historical importance. scope_creepTalk 10:44, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. Except he does have coverage - an Allmusic bio cited in the article for starters (which describes him as a "leading UK garage DJ"), and he has had a top 40 hit in the UK (edit: actually three top 50 singles in the UK - see [1]), also sourced in the article. How many Spotify or Soundcloud followers someone has has never been an accepted measure of notability. There is also more coverage around, e.g. from the BBC, NME, The Guardian, and Billboard (...Ed Case, whose remix was responsible for Gorillaz's worldwide hit "Clint Eastwood"...), so I don't see any valid arguments for deletion in the nomination. --Michig (talk) 17:58, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Michig: Well done for finding that. scope_creepTalk 18:19, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yip, count me in. I'll withdraw tomorrow. scope_creepTalk 00:46, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. North America1000 07:57, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:BIO. Fails WP:SIGCOV. Seems to be a business man. Non notable. scope_creepTalk 22:20, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete  — Amakuru (talk) 12:30, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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No claim of notability of the release. Clearly lacks WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC NNADIGOODLUCK (Talk|Contribs) 22:18, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. If anybody wants to add information about Mustapha to Louis Farrakhan, they're free to do so. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:49, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Mustapha Farrakhan has a very famous father and a notable son, but apart from one story from 2013 about collecting a paycheck despite not working, there are no other reliable sources about him. If that's the only reliable source, which it is, there are BLP concerns. Even with that one source, the subject still fails the GNG due to a lack of SIGCOV in reliable sources. schetm (talk) 21:44, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Merge with Louis Farrakhan. Agree with nom that most coverage in reliable sources revolves around the police controversy with no follow-up reporting, as in WP:BLP1E. Just being the son and likely successor of Louis Farrakhan is not enough per WP:INVALIDBIO and WP:CRYSTAL, so I don't see the justification for a standalone article at this point in time. StonyBrook (talk) 03:13, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep UPI, AP, and the Chicago papers were all over this guy on corruption charges because he had a job at the police department where he did nothing except escort Daddy around town in police cruiser. The story in the Chicago Tribune was a finalist for a Pulitzer.Strandvue (talk) 12:22, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Doing nothing except escort Daddy under color of an official police position and having a flash of reporting about it doesn't qualify someone to have an encyclopedia article written about them. The Pulitzer article was not about Farrakhan specifically but Harvey police corruption in general. StonyBrook (talk) 22:00, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete  — Amakuru (talk) 13:10, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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This page has hardly any sources, and truly seems like original research. Topic being discussed is subjective, yet point of views abound in the article, as it reads and seems like a do's and don'ts list. SuperWikiLover223 (talk) 20:45, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete Appears to violate WP:OR as has already been stated. Wikipedia is not a guide, nor should it be used as a random collection of subjectively defined common-sense courtesies which are also reported in a way that violates WP:POV. The idea that this entry may be okay because of WP:BLUE fails to recognize that something as obvious as the sky being blue is not equivalent to a random list of do's and don'ts.Grapefruit17 (talk) 14:26, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - Per above concerns of WP:OR, WP:POV and WP:NOTGUIDE. The title could potentially be a valid redirect, as suggested, but this article does not need to be retained in any form for that to occur. Rorshacma (talk) 16:17, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment - You are essentially arguing to create a completely different article, though. The current article is not about "Distracted Walking", and only one of the entries in it are even close to the topic. Creating an article, on that topic and with those sources, would basically require renaming the article and completely rewriting it on the new topic from the ground up. That would be no different than just creating a new article on that topic from scratch, which does not necessitate the keeping of the unsourced information from the present article. Rorshacma (talk) 05:42, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:08, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Taekwondo competitor who's claim to fame is being denied entry into the U.S. because of Donald Trump's travel ban. Although he has competed at the senior world championships, his highest world ranking ever apparently was 59th, which does not show notability. He is currently ranked 73rd. Clear case of WP:BLP1E and definitely fails the notability standards for martial artists at WP:MANOTE. Sandals1 (talk) 19:23, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - it's a borderline case, but after researching this he isn't notable enough yet as a martial arts practitioner and does has reliable sources but fails WP:BLP1E Mujinga (talk) 22:16, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. RL0919 (talk) 21:56, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:PERP not met. power~enwiki (π, ν) 20:02, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. North America1000 08:54, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Notability concerns - finishing in 3rd place on The Voice Nigeria is not sufficient, and references are either about the show or speculate as to his lack of prominence. power~enwiki (π, ν) 19:52, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Weak Delete The article is not just about a contestant, and so other notability criteria must be considered. With the sources provided, one is about the subject and a second has some coverage, the others are passing mentions of the subject. I did not search further, but if more sources that detail the subject can be found, I would consider a keep. Walter Görlitz (talk) 20:30, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep  — Amakuru (talk) 13:20, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Not notable. He was born, got a degree, won a minor award, that is all. Hyperbolick (talk) 19:27, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. There are multiple hits in a google book search, unfortunately only in snippet view. A general search shows national news coverage and plenty else so he’s really not just like a guy who got a degree. Mccapra (talk) 20:00, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Does "multiple hits in a google book search" make one notable? Seen exactly that view dismissed in recent AfDs. Does not by itself indicate whether those hits were from passing mentions or from more in-depth paragraphs of coverage, no? Or whether those books were perhaps self published, or not independent? Hyperbolick (talk) 20:13, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • Well take a look and see what you think. It’s not possible for me to say if they’re just passing mentions, but there’s quite a few of them. As the subject of the article is an Assamese writer it would be helpful to check for Assamese sources, which unfortunately I’m not able to do. Mccapra (talk) 21:14, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
User:Usernamekiran and why did he get the award ? It was not given cuz he won lottery or something. It was given for his notable work that made the subject notable.--DBigXray 07:06, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep passes WP:GNG, WP:NAUTHOR #4. Unlike what the nominator thinks, Sahitya Akademi Award is a major award for excellence in Indian language. Sahitya Akademi, India's National Academy of Letters, annually confers on writers of the most outstanding books of literary merit. In the Assamese language category, the subject won the award for his literary works.[2] It is expected that people will be looking for his article. Hence I dont agree that this be deleted. --DBigXray 07:04, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • (Article creator !vote)Keep - Sahitya Akademi Award is the highest award in India, for literary excellence, in a particular language. WBGconverse 07:23, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Tone 15:29, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Their name makes searching difficult, but I can find practically nothing on this band beyond routine social media and retail/streaming entries, and nothing non-trivial that qualifies for WP:NBAND. Also note that there was at least one other band of the same name in the 1960s. One of their songs was played on television, but even that fact is only mentioned at IMDB and various pop culture listcicle sites. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 15:09, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Fenix down (talk) 14:37, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:V, no evidence to suggest this international sports tournament actually exists. According to the article, the tournament was to be announced in December 2018 but there has been no official announcement. The only information I can find online are blog posts of people speculating what a "CAF Nations League" could look like. BLAIXX 14:57, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Tone 15:30, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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This article was created through undisclosed paid editing and the changes since the last edit by the UPE user are minor. hujiTALK 13:18, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Tone 15:28, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The article was created through undisclosed paid editing and the changes since then are all minor. hujiTALK 13:14, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete As a composer or singer he is clearly non notable. He has published some books on Iranian ethnic music, none of them are influential on the field. Isn't member of a prestigious society. Fails WP:NACADEMIC. (Also noted that, contrary to what the article claims, those books are not published by Iran's Academy of Art Press but by a publishing house affiliated to the Academy.)Farhikht (talk) 17:53, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Fenix down (talk) 14:38, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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This player has only played seven minutes of football which despite passing WP:NFOOTY would probably fail WP:GNG.

I am also the following article for the same reason:

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Keep - Player made one professional appearance in the top division of Portuguese football. If this appearance had been in, say, 1970 - fair enough. But he played in 2019 and will most likely play another professional game, if not move to another professional league. Passes WP:FOOTY. Davidlofgren1996 (talk) 13:35, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep - Tong Le passes WP:NFOOTBALL and has an ongoing career. If he makes no further appearances we can re-consider. Also procedural keep Tong Lei on the basis that the bundling was wholly inappropriate. As it stands he also passes WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 09:51, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Aside from the recent NFOOTY pass, Tong Lei likely satisfies GNG: [3], [4], [5]. Major language barrier, which I don't think gets treated correctly at AfDs. How can we judge something the majority of us have absolutely no clue about? Not saying it warrants a straight keep, but it's something that should always be thoroughly checked. Latter part goes for Tong Le too. I also think AfD bundles are inappropriate, AfDs are rarely the same - just my opinion though. R96Skinner (talk) 01:04, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not that this !vote will make a difference but keep Tong Lei who meets GNG with 66wz and kknews, delete Tong Le who doesn't meet GNG, the only coverage in Portuguese-language media I can find online is brief mentions in (primary source) game reports (and, of course, one NFOOTY appearance doesn't outweigh the lack of secondary sources–I wasn't going to leave that part out ). Levivich 02:54, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Tone 15:28, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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I believe this is essentially a recreation of a previously deleted article located here. It was created only a week or two after its deletion, by the same author, and I don't think any meaningful improvements were made to the sourcing. It reads like a CV if anything. If you go to the creator's user page, it's the same as this article. So this seems to be a vanity page with no real notability. —Torchiest talkedits 12:52, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, this does not appear to be the same person as Abdulaziz bin Salman Al Saud, the son of the Saudi King who was recently appointed Energy Minister. —Torchiest talkedits 13:21, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - Not notable for anything other than being a member of a very important, but very extensive family. The article is also poorly written with the bit from the Hobbies section in particular almost reading like parody: "He likes different cultures and wants to bring harmony among different cultures, religions and nations. He is also fond of art. Prince also love animals and he has hundreds of camels." PraiseVivec (talk) 14:41, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Certainly no consensus to delete. This could be closed as "no consensus" but I believe there is enough consensus to keep that I am closing it as such. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 14:31, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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nonnotable organization Staszek Lem (talk) 01:17, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Neutral - Gupta's book contains enough content scattered around what their members said to qualify, in my opinion. The bay windows (also shows up elsewhere, like here) also has some non-quote content. Other sources are generally only mentions. I'm actually surprised it had this much. I was considering weak delete, given it needs to meet WP:NORG, but decided to opt for neutral instead. Nosebagbear (talk) 22:36, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Weak Keep. There's relatively extensive coverage in Hawaii University Ethnic Studies and Women's Studies prof. Monisha Das Gupta's Unruly Immigrants: Rights, Activism, and Transnational South Asian Politics in the United States (Duke University Press, 2006, ISBN 978-0822338987). Beyond this, there's little more than listings in various help and orientation sites, plus this coverage in a blog. Barely touches the notability hurdle. -The Gnome (talk) 10:48, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep - Per WP:NORG, we need "significant coverage in multiple independent, reliable secondary sources" for this to be notable and while it has many trivial mentions, (including one naming it among the three most important Asian-American LGBT organizations[1]), it seems difficult to find any significant coverage in another source other than Unruly Immigrants. This article from Boston Spirit make several mentions of it and briefly discusses the organization's relation to Islam, but I'm not sure it can be considered "significant".[2]. However, the WP:NORG also mentions that "The word "multiple" is not a set number and depends on the type of organization or product. Editors should recognize certain biases" and that depending on their profile, some organizations "might establish notability with just one or two quality sources". Given the very specific area of interest of this organization (LGBT Asian immigrants in New England), I'm going to argue that this is one of those cases where Unruly Immigrants is enough to prove MASALA's notability. PraiseVivec (talk) 15:23, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]


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  1. ^ Alam, Mohammed Badrul (2015). "Chapter Eight. Back to the Roots: Engagement of the Indian Diaspora in the United States and India". In Rahman, Md Mizanur; Hussain, Zaara Zain (eds.). South Asian Migration: Remittances and Beyond. Newcastle upon Tyne, England. p. 174. Retrieved 12 September 2019.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)
  2. ^ Lopata, James (10 September 2008). "Gay Muslims Find Hope in New England". Boston Spirit Magazine. Retrieved 12 September 2019.
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The result was redirect to List of Marvel Comics characters: G. Tone 15:27, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable fictional character TTN (talk) 12:10, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:50, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:BIO and WP:SIGCOV. No real coverage. scope_creepTalk 11:18, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi scope_creepTalk so nice of you to reach out and open a discussion on the Joe Poletto editing I did. I have some doubts as to why my sources/references are not good enough to validate the text and provide notability. (They are: People magazine, Santa Rosa Press Democrat, Adweek, Sactown Magazine. New source to add to improve notability, readability from the LA Times - '97 - https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1997-nov-17-fi-54712-story.html) I reviewed the requirements for notability again, and also have seen many CEO pages, which are the outlines for what I have done. Would it help if I changed the page to a Stub?EllenZoe (talk) 18:39, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @EllenZoe: I would leave the sarcasm at the door. Its seen as a form of personal attack and some admins don't take kindly to it. I don't mind it. I reviewed the article and didn't think he was notable. The ref article mentioned is a name drop. I really don't see it here, and honestly want the article deleted. scope_creepTalk 13:12, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
scope_creepTalk I apologize if the tone of the writing implied any sarcasm. I was truly sincere in my wanting to learn what I did wrong with the Joe Poletto page. I didn't know, but now do, that using an article with just a name mention is not substantial enough of a source. I still would be interested in changing the page to a Stub if that would keep it from being deleted. EllenZoe (talk) 13:40, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I honestly don't know. scope_creepTalk 13:44, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @EllenZoe: I was thinking when something is at Afc and it gets to this stage, the reviewing editor usually ask for WP:THREE. If you can find three references that will prove notability and put them close to the top and get rid of everything that can't be proved, it shows the editors here that the article is undergoing some improvement to make it notable. Hope that helpsscope_creepTalk 13:56, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Scope creep:Good morning Reworked and rewrote the entire Joe Poletto article, putting best sources up top, taking out the more adverorial text, I hope, and eliminated all the business mentions. I hope that helps keep the page now. If there is anything further you think I can do please let me know. EllenZoe (talk) 14:30, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The 1st and 2nd ref's are name drops. 3rd is a name drop. 4th is a name drop. 5th is a name drop. It still doesn't satisfy WP:BIO and WP:SIGCOV. There is no independent references that cover him in depth and are WP:SECONDARY refs. It is just no there. scope_creepTalk 14:36, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Tone 15:27, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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A guy who has written a few books. No real evidence of notability for him or his books. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:02, 12 September 2019 (UTC) — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:02, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Tone 15:25, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Not notable. Does not meet WP:GNG or WP:CORP, especially with respect to WP:CORPDEPTH. — Newslinger talk 08:58, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I found no sources outside of the ones cited in the article that would support Premier Private Jets's notability. — Newslinger talk 08:58, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete - no significant independent news coverage. I also searched on newspapers.com for any articles that may have been written about the company in newspapers that aren't necessarily online and came up empty, although the name is comprised of very common words that generate tons of false matches. I also searched by the name of the company owner and also came up empty. RecycledPixels (talk) 15:48, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Wikipedia is not the Yellow Pages or a platform for promotion. I am unable to locate any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability, topic fails GNG and WP:NCORP. HighKing++ 17:46, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Tone 15:25, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Almost the definition of a one event. Not significantly notable and unlikely to have any enduring notability. QuiteUnusual (talk) 08:27, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Yunshui  08:24, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Per WP:NCORP. A clear case of WP:PROMO. No independent citations and most of the rewards are non-notable. (Also possible COI per discussion here:[1]. The author was suggested to wait until someone without CoI comes to create the article, but she did anyway.) Bishal Shrestha (talk) 07:59, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Yunshui  08:24, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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No working references. May not exist. Largely futurology from 2006. Rathfelder (talk) 07:19, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Yunshui  08:23, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Totally unsourced, but non-notable even if true. Being a delegate to a party national convention is not sufficient to pass WP:NPOL. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:24, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Yunshui  08:23, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Still not entirely convinced that this is notable based on the previous discussion. Ceethekreator (talk) 22:43, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hyttgf975 is the creator of the article. Hyttgf975's contributions to Wikipedia have been confined to this article. -The Gnome (talk) 21:03, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
My commentary above stands in full but, for better or probably worse, and on account of additional sources busying themselves with the article's subject, assessed cumulatively, said subject does pass the notability hurdle. Therefore, my suggestion cannot but change to Keep. The text remains in dire need of a serious clean up. -The Gnome (talk) 08:32, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Mustapha dare has made few contributions to Wikipedia, all after this AfD was initiated. -The Gnome (talk) 10:25, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Greetings, Mustapha dare. You claim that the subject "passes notability" without offering any sources beyond the current, discredited ones. Yours is a simple assertion of notability; but see WP:ITSNOTABLE. Also, look up the arguments in the previous AfD. -The Gnome (talk) 10:25, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Those source are not discredited because their from reliable source, also SEE WP:SOURCESEXIST--Hyttgf975 (talk) 10:35, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure you understand what WP:SOURCESEXIST says, Hyttgf975. -The Gnome (talk) 19:51, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Withdrawn. The song has now charted. There is no point in continuing discussion. (non-admin closure) Jalen D. Folf (talk) 23:54, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Never released as a single; never charted. Only notable contribution from this song is a single music video. A majority of the sources on the article refer to Hollywood's Bleeding and either mentions the song in passing or doesn't mention it at all. Fails WP:NSONG and WP:GNG. Jalen D. Folf (talk) 05:05, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep Saw the video and it has up to 1.2M views on YouTube in just 12 hours. The song is by a notable musician Post Malone and shouldn't be deleted. With the views alone and the notability of the artist, it sure passes WP:NSONG. Mustapha dare (talk) 09:29, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Although I do believe that article was created a little early. At this point the song is set to chart within the top 25 of the Billboard Hot 100 on Tuesday and is guaranteed to make the top 20 on the Australian charts tomorrow. Meeting the requirements for notability if it does. There are also various articles discussing the release of the song's music video as well. With a majority of the sources on the article being about the video and only talking about the specific song as well. DovahDuck (talk) 11:31, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - As noted above, the song will almost certainly chart. That said, is it really worth having it’s own article at this time? There’s very little content, and none that’s noteworthy. It was ranked #16 best song on this album. That’s not noteworthy in the least. There’s a sentence that basically boils down to “The song is about feeling unfulfilled”. And some basic observations on the music video’s existence. I’m leaning towards redirecting unless there’s anything of substance to add here. The current info easily fits on the album article. Sergecross73 msg me 13:36, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The song will chart soon making it notable and the music video. Billiekhalidfan (talk) 21:17, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Yunshui  08:23, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The subject doesn't seem to be notable and the article has been unsourced for a long time. Keivan.fTalk 23:49, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep - The one source in the article is significant coverage. Beyond that, sources are in Turkish. A simple google news search returns a lot of hits for her name. It's tough using machine translation but there is this CNN Turkey item and this item abouther running for some sort of political office. Somebody proficient in the Turkish language would likely be able to better sort through search results for better sources. -- Whpq (talk) 01:06, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
We could use the Turkish Wikipedia article for that but no such article exists. -The Gnome (talk) 20:51, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Greetings, RogueScholar. Essentially you're arguing that there must be sources and that the article's subject is notable by default. But this line of argument cannot be used in AfD discussions. -The Gnome (talk) 10:33, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Greetings, Mccapra. Care to present here and or add to the article these "plentiful sources", please? It'd help the AfD a lot. So far, we have a single, non-source cited.-The Gnome (talk) 10:33, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
OK I'll compile a list. Mccapra (talk) 10:57, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Here we go:
  • National Daily Hurriyet has 180 news items including Seyhan Soylu, including this and this
  • National daily Cumhuriyet has this
  • National daily Milliyet has archive articles on her going back 32 years here
Other news items about her include this and this
There are numerous book references as well, many of which seem to be about her political activities, but as they are in snippet view it is hard to evaluate them. Mccapra (talk) 11:47, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was withdrawn. (non-admin closure) SD0001 (talk) 17:18, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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This may be enough in deWP, but I don't think it is here. DGG ( talk ) 04:32, 12 September 2019 (UTC) my error. Withdrawn. DGG ( talk ) 17:16, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep. No valid rationale provided for deletion. Mccapra (talk) 03:16, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Frederick C. Beiser discusses her works in three of xyr books, including a few facts here and there not in this article (including that Taubert's critics mistakenly used "er" for her, since her byline used the initial "A."). ‎Manuel Pérez Cornejo mentions Taubert (on pages 8 and 15) in xyr introduction to the translation of Julius Bahnsen's Der Widerspruch im Wissen und Wesen der Welt. This is certainly not an unknown historical person, and she is known for her work, which is cited quite a lot. The thing about the name was still going strong a century later. Wolfgang Schömel's Apokalyptische Reiter sind in der Luft confidently declares her to be a pseudonym on page 196 in 1985, one sentence after calling her "Ehefrau". Uncle G (talk) 08:58, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep There are other sources as well as the three Beiser books, which do have quite a lot about her - Weltschmerz in particular discusses her on 5 pages, and he describes her as having "a fearsome intellect and will / fearsome polemical talent all her own", and talks about her views: "she admitted that disappointment among the masses was indeed one reason for pessimism. She disagreed with Volkert, however, that one should try to encourage optimism, to give the masses hope to change their situation ...".
I find snippet views on Google Books of publications including:
  • Die Gesellschaft, Volume 3, a reprint (from when?) appears to have a piece by Hartmann, as the visible text says "Im Jahre 1871 verheiratete ich mich mit Agnes Taubert, der Tochter eines alten Freundes von meinem Vater, des pensionierten Artillerie-Oberst Taubert. Unter der Chiffre A. T. oder unter dem Namen A. Taubert hat dieselbe sowohl vor wie ..." which suggests that she was writing before her marriage, as well as afterwards;
  • 1912, Foundations of the History of Psychology: Founders of modern psychology [6], which on p 184 starts "Agnes Taubert, the daughter of an artillery colonel", and has more on p 207;
  • 1918, this Dutch book, De Vrouw, de vrouwenbeweging en het vrouwenvraagstuk, Volume 2, has at least a paragraph about her (no more is visible in snippet view) [7], which says something like (per Google Translate, I don't know any Dutch): "Agnes Taubert, his first wife, after many internal struggles, had freed herself from her strict religious beliefs to become a fervent supporter of his philosophical beliefs. In those early years of fierce struggle, she supported her husband awake: she repeatedly repelled the attacks on von Hartmann".
  • 1926-1950, at least, her work Der Pessimismus und seine Gegner is included in the Encyclopædia Britannica: A New Survey of Universal Knowledge entry on Pessimism [8], [9];
  • 1930, Contemporary Thought of Germany, Volume 1, "Agnes Taubert has attempted to show how Hartmann's teaching can be turned into a powerful lever for the regeneration of the world" [10];
  • 1948, A Critical Evaluation of Pessimism, which on p 27 says "He married the famous Agnes Taubert, herself an ardent pessimist and ...", but nothing is visible in the snippet view [11];
  • 2002 Melancholiana: Verzeichnis einer Bibliothek has a very short entry on her [12];
  • 2008 A Swedish source [13] mentions a book by Dahlkvist which has a chapter on Agnes Taubert (this may be Nietzsche and the philosophy of pessimism : a study of Nietzsche's relation to the pessimistic tradition : Schopenhauer, Hartmann, Leopardi, 2007?)
I have not yet included anything in the article except a quote from a review of one of Beiser's books, which describes Taubert as "one of the first women to have a prominent role in a public intellectual debate in Germany." I do think that, with access to a good library of philosophy and the history of philosophy, it would be possible to add quite a bit more - the chapter in the Dahlkvist book would probably be a good place to start. And I think even these snippets show that there is sustained coverage, more than trivial, and not just saying that she was someone's wife, but describing/explaining/discussing her views and works - enough to meet WP:GNG or WP:BASIC. RebeccaGreen (talk) 22:45, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Keep. I tend to be a bit on the deletionist side, but this AfD is ridiculous. I never heard of her before, but then I haven't heard of her husband either, because I am not interested in philosophy. In any case, anyone who wrote 2 books that are still available 150 years later in three academic libraries in a single city alone (Berlin) is very likely to be notable. (Between Berlin State Library and the various central and decentralised libraries of Humboldt University and of Free University of Berlin there are 4 copies of her 1872 book and 5 copies of her 1873 book. The 1872 book has also been digitized in Berlin. And it's not just Berlin. Munich (at the other cultural end of Germany) also has 2 copies of her second book. She also made it into a printed collection of historical short biographies from her state. (Wer war wer in Mecklenburg und Vorpommern - Who was who in Mecklenburg and Vorpommern; Mecklenburg and Vorpommern are two historical regions that now make up the north-eastern most state of Germany.) It also stands to reason that a woman writing two philosophical books in 1872/73 would automatically have been a celebrity at the time. Some people overdo it with the feminist rewriting of history, but this AfD looks like the opposite problem. – And just in case it still needs saying: Notability is not language or culture dependent. If someone is notable in the Basque country and all sources are in Basque, it's difficult to write a proper English article, but the person is still notable for the English Wikipedia. Hans Adler 18:44, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per the comments above. Notability is established by the well-sourced "was a major influence on the pessimism controversy". That controversy is largely forgotten today but being notable at a particular time establishes notability. Johnuniq (talk) 01:18, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. My error. AfD request withdrawn. DGG ( talk ) 08:20, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. No prejudice to recreation in the future if more sources arise or she is elected to higher office.. Yunshui  08:19, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-advertorial WP:BLP of a person notable only for serving on a neighborhood council and being an as yet non-winning candidate in a future political party primary. Neither of these are notability claims that pass WP:NPOL, but the sourcing is not making a strong case that she's much more special than everybody else who's done the same things without getting into Wikipedia for it. The seemingly strongest source here, The New York Times, doesn't even mention the subject at all, but is here merely to tangentially verify a stray fact about the incumbent congressman she's primarying; four of the other eight are primary sources which are not support for notability at all (YouTube videos, the subject's own bylined writing, the subject's own campaign website, etc.), and the stuff that is media coverage about Maebe A. Girl is just routine campaign coverage in LA. And no, "first drag queen elected to public office in her state" is not a notable historic first in a state that's already had enough LGBTQ officeholders to fill a Pride parade: "first member of an underrepresented occupation to do a not otherwise notable thing" is not an "inherent" notability freebie that entitles a person to a Wikipedia article in the absence of much more substance and sourcing than this. Bearcat (talk) 04:00, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Pass The name and the consequent Wikipedian name format in the article make for hilarious reading. One of the most humorous articles we have. Other than that, I'll leave the serious matter of deletion up to people with more political (s)expertise than I enjoy myself. Best wishes to one and all, --SergeWoodzing (talk) 09:15, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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No, they really don't. Those are sources that routinely cover almost any queer person in the United States who accomplishes anything at all — so while they would be perfectly fine for use if Maebe A. Girl had a much stronger notability claim than she does, they aren't enough coverage all by themselves to magically make a neighborhood councillor so much more nationally notable than most other neighborhood councillors — at best they just make her a WP:BLP1E, as there's no evidence of ongoing nationalized coverage being shown at all besides the 1E novelty factor of a drag queen winning an election to a non-notable office. GNG does take into account the context of what a person is getting coverage for, and serving on a neighborhood council is not an "inherently" noteworthy context for which just two sources would be enough. Bearcat (talk) 18:15, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I have found a few other sources, though they are mainly local. "Would you like a side of camp with that? Echo Park restaurant now serving dinner and a drag show", The Eastsider, Feb 9, 2017 [14], has her birth name, that she was on the regular staff of The Park Restaurant, and did a monthly dinnertime drag show there called Dress Hall, with another drag queen. They had been performing together in drag for a bit over 2 years, and Girl also performed at Exposure Drag, a weekly show at the Offbeat Bar in Highland Park. "The First Drag Queen Elected to Local Office Is Making a Run for Congress" on Route Fifty, August 21, 2019 [15], says she started performing in drag five years ago, and her work became more political after the 2016 election; she describes herself as transgender and genderfluid, is trying to establish a drag queen story hour and LGBTQ lecture series at the local library and sits on the council homelessness committee. "Pride in Our People: Profiles in Local LGBTQ Activism" in LA Weekly, May 30, 2019 [16], also gives her birth name, and says she is forming a council committee focused on LGBTQ-related issues. "The most amazing brunches in LA hotels, from Bloody Mary menus to pool parties" in the UK Telegraph, 28 June 2019 [17] says she hosts a Wigs & Waffles Drag Brunch on Saturdays at The Standard, Downtown. The Los Angeles Magazine source which is already in the article has more info too: she volunteered in Chicago as an overnight supervisor at the Lincoln Park community shelter. Searching on the birth name and Chicago also finds some passing, promotional or local Chicago coverage, of tours they ran (of pizza [18] and of architecture [19]), work as a hotel concierge [20], and running for mayor there in 2010 [21].
I don't think that any of the sources are enough to meet WP:GNG yet, though. The Advocate article says "In a statement sent to The Advocate, she highlighted the ....", so that's pretty well based on a press release. The Out article says "Los Angeles-based drag performer Maebe A. Girl ... has been elected to the Silver Lake Neighborhood Council, The Advocate reports." So it's based on The Advocate, which is based on a press release. The Los Angeles Magazine article is better, The Eastsider is good, and the Q Voice News looks OK - but all are local. Route Fifty is national, "a digital news publication from Atlantic Media’s Government Executive Media Group" which "covers a variety of topics under the larger state, county and municipal government umbrella", and it was written by the assistant editor. But that's the only national coverage I'm aware of, and it's not a type of media I'm used to, so I'm not sure how to assess it. I think this may be WP:TOOSOON, but will consider it more before I !vote. RebeccaGreen (talk) 21:00, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • KEEP This drag queen is notable for getting elected to city council. There is potential for this person to move up the ranks of importance. She is definitely someone to keep an eye on...has a long career ahead of her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RachelWex (talkcontribs)
For one thing, she was not elected to a city council; she was elected to a neighborhood council, which is a level of office below the city council and not a level of office that passes WP:NPOL. For another, we don't keep articles about people based on assumptions about their potential to move up the ranks of importance in the future; we keep or delete articles based on what's already true today. If she does move up the ranks to hold a notable NPOL-passing office in the future, then that will be the appropriate time to start an article about her — but we don't keep articles about neighborhood councillors just because there's a possibility that they might win election to a more notable office in the future, because they also might not. If they do win election to a more notable office in the future, then great, once that's happened they get to have an article — but notability is based on what's already true today, not predictions about what might become true a year or five years or ten years from now. Bearcat (talk) 15:29, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
If Sports Illustrated were covering somebody in the context of winning the U.S. Open or being on a Stanley Cup championship team, then of course that coverage would speak to notability. But if it were covering somebody in the context of being on a little league team in Peoria IL, it would not. It's a question of the context of what the person is being covered for, and being elected to a neighborhood council is not a notable context. Bearcat (talk) 18:57, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Yunshui  08:13, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep. Fenix down (talk) 07:12, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:NFOOTY as he has never played in a fully professional league per Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues. Not thrilled about nominating this but bringing to AfD in order to determine whether he passes WP:GNG with his youth debut record. SportingFlyer T·C 03:23, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep From what I see, he took the pitch just yesterday for Viborg, so in my book that makes him a pro. Disclaimer: My Danish is non-existent and compounding the issue is the fact that I take personal exception to any sport calling itself football that doesn't use a prolate spheroid to determine possession. That said, I concur that this is a wobbler, but the tie goes to inclusions for me. Unrelated: Being ignorant about Danish names, I can only observe that some sources refer to him by the article name, and still others as Tobias Bech Kristensen, so a review by someone with a depth of familiarity with Danes/Danish football as to whether the article merits a move to the longer name would be wise, IMO.   🐈ℛogueScholar  ₨Talk🗩 ⚟  My recent
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  • @SportingFlyer: You're right, of course, but looking at the spirit of the policy I don't think it's out of line to note that's only the case after relegation a couple years ago, and that they're currently within three points of a promotion slot back to one of those fully-professional leagues. The squad has played two of the last five seasons in the Superliga and with a better than even proposition of it being three of six in ~8 months, this could be deleting a page with no serious content issues save size, only for it to be recreated and pass another AfD in under a year's time. I apologize if my willingness to look beyond the stated policy is inappropriate in a colloquy of this nature or if my attitude betrays a lack of respect for the consensus that underpins the policy; I'm trying to expand my participation beyond article improvement and get some bona fides in the "WikiNuts'n'Bolts" competencies like AfD, but can't betray my inner nature as a genuine inclusionist.   🐈ℛogueScholar  ₨Talk🗩 ⚟  My recent
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  • @RogueScholar: No worries. Just want to point out soccer has a large number of biographies (second most per capita behind gridiron) and it's very difficult to be kept if you don't technically pass the guideline, and we're also now going through and scrubbing articles which do pass the guideline, but where sources aren't immediately obviously found. Bach is very young and could pass the guideline relatively quickly, especially if he stays on the team if it were to be promoted again, but for now this is WP:TOOSOON, and the article is easily recreated if he does pass the guideline in the future. My only hesitation is that this is a better written stub than several recent articles I've accepted at AfC recently which are definitively notable. SportingFlyer T·C 05:29, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • @SportingFlyer: My reaction to hearing that soccer has so many biographies is genuinely "Awesome! I hope they have twice as many next year, provided they're factual!," though I have come to realize that mine is apparently a minority opinion here.
    (I'll try to behave here and keep it topical, not political.)
    I fully concur with you that what exists currently is a "notably" high-quality article when viewed among the cohort of Stub/Start-Class sports biographical articles. The information appears to be unflinchingly factual, and shows a commitment to quality on the part of the editors that I personally respect. And while I also greatly respect the time and energy it has undoubtedly taken you to have the level of experience to understand/reference all of the relevant content policies you've been kind enough to direct me to thus far, consensus does nothing to obviate their arbitrary nature, and in my heart it would be critically bad karma borne by all Wikipedians if the article were ultimately deleted. Considering it costs essentially nothing to let it remain (provided it's as factual as it appears after brief investigation) and the alternative is to lay waste to the incalculably valuable time (even if it's just measured in minutes) that others donated to breathe life into it, how can any of these policies ever accomplish anything good without some beneficent subjectivity on the part of those who apply them? I know that shouldn't technically come to bear on this discussion and so this will be my final comment regarding the matter, except to thank you for being so pleasant, informative and candid with me in this discourse. I honestly don't think I've ever had a WikiInteraction that involved three WP:YADAYADAALLCAPS links being included where I still hoped to have cause to interact with the other person(s) again someday, as I hope we do. You're a good egg in my book, no matter the outcome here. Best,   🐈ℛogueScholar  ₨Talk🗩 ⚟  My recent
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The result was delete. Yunshui  08:12, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Leonard Jones (American politician) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD · Stats)
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Minimally sourced biography of an eccentric political fringe candidate, not demonstrating that he has enough reliable source coverage to get over WP:GNG for it. This is referenced entirely to a single news article in a single organizational newsletter, which is not enough coverage to make a person notable all by itself if it's the only source you can show. Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have a lot more coverage than this. Bearcat (talk) 03:15, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment as article creator. I totally can't recall how I ended up at the original source (a blog website), but I was apparently editing the "List of people claimed to be immortal" article at the time, so it must have come up as part of that? Eh, 2008 was a different era on Wikipedia. Anyway, that source lists the book "Offbeat Kentuckians" as the source ([27]), but that doesn't appear to be a particularly high-quality source. The primary source articles seem to be legit enough to indicate that this article is not a hoax or a non-existent person, but I'll certainly grant that they are an exceedingly minor character, the equivalent of the TimeCube guy. I will say that "politician" is probably misleading disambiguation; while they apparently were a perennial candidate, their notability is specifically in being an eccentric / quack peddling biological immortality. I can't claim there's any huge gain to keeping this, but I also think it's pretty harmless as is. SnowFire (talk) 03:43, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Yunshui  08:10, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Advertorialized WP:BLP of a businessman and politician, not properly sourced as clearing our notability criteria for businesspeople or politicians. His notability claim as a politician is that he was an unsuccessful candidate in a congressional election, which is not a claim that passes WP:NPOL in and of itself -- and the sourcing for that comprises almost entirely routine local campaign coverage, much of which is deadlinked. As always, unelected candidates for office are not deemed to pass WP:GNG just because some local campaign coverage exists in their district's local media, because every candidate in every election can always show some of that: the notability test for a candidate requires evidence that his candidacy was much more special than most other people's candidacies, in some way that would satisfy the ten year test for enduring significance. But this is also not adequately demonstrating that he had preexisting notability that would have gotten him an article for other reasons besides the candidacy, as his business career is supported entirely by a giant reference bomb of primary sources rather than any real evidence that he was getting media coverage in that context before the candidacy happened. This is quite simply neither a well-written nor well-sourced article. Bearcat (talk) 02:58, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Candidates are not automatically more special than other candidates just because of which other person they happened to lose to. Regardless of who they did or didn't challenge, all candidates are still judged by the same standards as all other candidates — and those standards are based strictly on the depth of notability that the candidate themselves can or cannot show, not on the identity of their opponent. Janice Hahn does not have any uniquely Hahnian special ability to confer permanent encyclopedic notability on her election opponents, just because they were running against her — a person is not automatically more notable just because they were running against Janice Hahn than they would have been if they had run and lost in any other district in the country. Bearcat (talk) 14:17, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Yunshui  08:07, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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essentially advertising for her PR practice. Reads like an autobio, with a section on her totally non-encyclopedic sports career, and paragraphs on individual non-notable podcasts. DGG ( talk ) 02:48, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Yunshui  08:07, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:TOOSOON article about an as yet unreleased film, not yet reliably sourced as clearing the high bar needed to make a film notable this far in advance of release. Three of the four references here are primary sources (IMDb, corporate press releases) which are not support for notability at all -- and the only quasi-reliable source is Gizmodo, which is sort of okay, but not solid enough to get a film over WP:NFILM all by itself if it's the only not completely useless source you can show. No prejudice against recreation if and when release is imminent enough that better sources start showing up, but the sourcing shown here is not even close to good enough yet. Bearcat (talk) 02:24, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Yunshui  08:05, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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not notable journalist without any major position . One very minor controversy, but nothing remarkable. DGG ( talk ) 02:22, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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I was asked to look again , because references were added. But this still seems to me essentially BLP1E, with all the coverage on a single event. I might be wrong, but others can judge for themselves. DGG ( talk ) 05:48, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

OK so she isn't Erin Andrews among other famous female reporters, but she has done quite a bit. She was a big star on the Golf Channel and has moved around Fox Sports covering Football (both college and pros) and Fox Sports though highly of her to have her sub on the Herd and Skip and Shannon: Undisputed. There's less content on other pages but they're safe and Holly's isn't. Dwightforrm ( talk ) 20:58, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. comment by Dwightforrm makes a good point: she's not famous.Strandvue (talk) 12:04, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I'm just tired of defending the pages I created. I found 12 sources on her (half of them after this notice) and it seems it's not enough. It's just frustrating. Dwightforrm ( talk ) 1:01, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete - no evidence of notability - two of the sources are interviews which are primary sources (WP:PSTS) - most of the rest are run of the mill coverage for a TV person, no indepth coverage or articles specifically about the subject - does not meed WP:ANYBIO or WP:BASIC as there is no significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources - Epinoia (talk) 21:54, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete. Deleted as G12 unambiguous copyright violation Barkeep49 (talk) 03:21, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Biography (with some advertorial overtones) of a businessperson, not properly sourced as clearing our notability standards for businesspeople: the references here are all primary sources, such as the self-published websites of his own companies and a YouTube video and a legacy.com obituary, with no evidence of media coverage being shown at all. As always, people are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they existed -- the notability test is not the things the article says, it's the degree to which the things it says can or cannot be referenced to evidence that media devoted attention to him and his work, such as in newspaper or magazine journalism and/or books. Bearcat (talk) 01:24, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete. Already dealt with at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Emmanuel Michael RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:30, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Inadequate evidence for notability . The "100 most " lists are a technique of PR, invented for that purpose. All the referencesare either PR or noticces or his own writings. DGG ( talk ) 00:20, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was redirect to List of cosmic entities in Marvel Comics. Yunshui  08:04, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable fictional character TTN (talk) 00:09, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:08, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete This individual is not a notable social media personality by any stretch of the imagination. KidAd (talk) 17:26, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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